--- title: Thanks, Failure! with Justin Martin & David Brown - BuildWitt description: Aaron is joined by Justin Martin and David Brown to talk about making for your people to be together, and how failure can sometimes be the best teacher. image: https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/122_cover.jpg --- ![Thanks, Failure! with Justin Martin & David Brown](https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/122_cover.jpg) episode 122 # Thanks, Failure! with Justin Martin & David Brown June 2, 2022 • 73 min Get the Buildwitt app: --- [![appstore](https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/2022%20-%20BuildWitt/Training%20page/appstore.svg) ](https://apps.apple.com/us/app/buildwitt/id1595174235) [![googleplay](https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/2022%20-%20BuildWitt/Training%20page/googleplay.svg) ](https://andriodapk.com/androidapp/1595174235/) Listen on: --- [Apple Podcast ![Apple Podcast](https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/ApplePodcast.svg) ](https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dirt-talk-by-buildwitt/id1494235724) [Google Podcast ![Google Podcast](https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/GooglePodcast.svg) ](https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9mZWVkcy5idXp6c3Byb3V0LmNvbS83Nzk2MDMucnNz?sa=X&ved=0CAMQ4aUDahcKEwjQ24rn4__2AhUAAAAAHQAAAAAQAQ) [Spotify Podcast ![Spotify Podcast](https://resources.buildwitt.com/hubfs/SpotifyPodcast.svg) ](https://open.spotify.com/show/2GK5UWkulNJ6tNFXvWngMt) Let your voice be heard! 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